only one thing i can say here...i love it when i get placed in Vvega's group. One of the very few times i actually get healed

Duriah wrote: so wtf onyxus... you're gonna have 4 60's soon? teh fuk

Such is my intention, and then when I'm done with the priest it's likely I'll leave my 44 shaman. I was going to do the shaman first but it takes much longer to kill a mob with my shaman than with my priest.

vvega wrote: ask hunding where I sit on the healing list when I am shadowform and doing improved vampiric embrace in MC.

Well, that includes tons of overhealing. I don't like healing meters because, well, it counts overhealing. That said, imp. vampiric embrace is teh

sure, its overhealing, but when youre in MC, when are you not overhealing? No good priest will wait until the MT is under 50% to start a heal.

For MC a shadowpriest with decent gear can heal just fine for any MT healing. Maybe not in BWL or AQ where things start to get really rough, but for MC i have healed just fine for SoD, Volitale back in the day, and now MW.

Because at the end of the day in MC its all about spamming flash heal and dispell.

vvega wrote:
Because at the end of the day in MC its all about spamming flash heal and dispell.

and teabagging totmacher when he gets one shotted like a little nancy boy.

Duriah wrote: so wtf onyxus... you're gonna have 4 60's soon? teh fuk

Such is my intention, and then when I'm done with the priest it's likely I'll leave my 44 shaman. I was going to do the shaman first but it takes much longer to kill a mob with my shaman than with my priest.

vvega wrote: ask hunding where I sit on the healing list when I am shadowform and doing improved vampiric embrace in MC.

Well, that includes tons of overhealing. I don't like healing meters because, well, it counts overhealing. That said, imp. vampiric embrace is teh

sure, its overhealing, but when youre in MC, when are you not overhealing? No good priest will wait until the MT is under 50% to start a heal.

For MC a shadowpriest with decent gear can heal just fine for any MT healing. Maybe not in BWL or AQ where things start to get really rough, but for MC i have healed just fine for SoD, Volitale back in the day, and now MW.

Because at the end of the day in MC its all about spamming flash heal and dispell.

vvega wrote:
Because at the end of the day in MC its all about spamming flash heal and dispell.

and teabagging totmacher when he gets one shotted like a little nancy boy.

Dreadmear wrote: vvega wrote:
Because at the end of the day in MC its all about spamming flash heal and dispell.

and teabagging totmacher when he gets one shotted like a little nancy boy.yes!

vvega wrote: sure, its overhealing, but when youre in MC, when are you not overhealing? No good priest will wait until the MT is under 50% to start a heal.

You _start_ the heal before the MT needs it. You cancel it if the MT doesn't take damage. If the MT takes damage, you let the heal go off when the MT needs it. No overhealing, no letting the tank get low before starting a heal.

The main cause of overhealing IMHO is two people dropping heals at the same time. It happens sometimes, and it's avoidable. But no, most of my healing is not overhealing... and even it if had been, that'd reinforce my statement about healing meters being of tenuous value.

vvega wrote: For MC a shadowpriest with decent gear can heal just fine for any MT healing. Maybe not in BWL or AQ where things start to get really rough, but for MC i have healed just fine for SoD, Volitale back in the day, and now MW.

Yeah... the metric I mentioned earlier (shadow's fine until you either start going OOM or can't keep the tank up on the content you're doing; then you might want to think about respeccing) is I think a good one. We're not having either of those problems in MC right now. Even on Rag the healers said that mana wasn't a big problem. Months ago, when we were first learing MC, it might have been more helpful to spec healing, and it certainly doesn't hurt now, but I agree it certainly isn't needed now.

ZG and AQ are actually IMHO the biggest reasons to be specced healing in MW. You're much more likely to go OOM or not have enough healing throughput there than MC. I might think about speccing my priest shadow for some BG fun, since he's just an alt, except that the Rajaxx fight is hard as hell even with full healing spec and a boatload of mana pots.

Though, of course, a shadow priest will own up Moam And, like I said, I really like having a shadow priest around doing DPS.

vvega wrote: Because at the end of the day in MC its all about spamming flash heal and dispell.

/cry

Nooooo.

Greater Heal is a wonderful thing! Flash heal spam = baaaad.

I start gheals and cancel until I can let one go off without overhealing. If I cancel and it looks like waiting another 2.5 seconds to start a gheal would be risky, I then flash heal. There are certainly times when flash heal is a very good thing... but it's not the bread-and-butter spam.

i used to spam flash heals, when i had really crappy gear cause people were dead by the time I could get off a gheal or heal and then those didn't heal for much. Then i would be OOM all the time and burn through major mana pots like conjured water. Even after i respec disp/holy.

I have better gear now with a good amount of +healing and other good stuff and so i use the gheals and heals cause now they heal a hell of a lot more and i have time to regen mana between heals. Renews are awesome too for quick heals, right now mine tick for around the 300ish range. So now it takes me a while to really burn through all my mana.

If you want to be a real healbot:
+healing
+int
+spirit
+mana regen

i do use flash heals when necessary but it still burns through mana fast when you have to spam it.